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No, YOU move. (ey/em)'s avatar

I think there’s a special flavor of dysphoria in “this person is (only) gendering me correctly so they can use my gender as a weapon to beat me with” and also in “the only times I’m not misgendered are when people want to (use my gender, explicitly or implicitly, to) [exploit, mock, talk over, etc.] me.” It kind of… almost still feels like misgendering, somehow? The surface language being used is correct but something about the undercurrent feels a bit like the way that misgendering asserts the other person’s invented version of your gender over your actual gender to me. IDK.

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It's fascinating how many of our experiences as trans men and trans women overlap. I have tried to push the idea that we are "socialised trans" and not as girls or boys - because who we are inside a) has an active part in how we perceive and incorporate our socialisation, b) determines how we actively shape it (who we look up to, etc., which mannerisms as subconsciously learn) and c) leaks outside, so people notice we are different and treat us as such. (Which especially leads to that kind of sexual violence you described we get for being somehow queer/gender deviant).

This does not mean the transmasc and transfem childhood experiences are the same - but being trans, even unknowingly is a huge factor that influences us all.

The other point you touch and I think get across quite good is that people have coopted the analysis of systemic oppression in order to allege power imbalances in individual relationships. And while in some cases they might be obvious because of the *actions* people take, you can't put people on an "oppression scale" because of them. Individual lives have privilege, oppression, trauma in so many dimensions that we barely know them all.

Yes, we know that *statistically* women are victims of sexual assault more often than men. But that doesn't mean when you pick *one* man and *one* woman and let them talk about the topic the woman will automatically have more experience. And if you compare specific sub groups that statistic might even flip.

It's the same fallacy people use against trans women when they say "they are males and males statistically do X".

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